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		<title>By: Steve Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Steven, in that I&#039;m not on the tenure track, and generally able to do what I want when it comes to professional activities. Which makes me much less stressed about it, and makes the activities themselves more fun (though Jane&#039;s comment over on ARCLog about what happens when it is time to look for another job gave me pause).

Dave&#039;s point system creeps me out. &quot;Sorry Dave, you are five points shy of your merit pay raise; looks like you shouldn&#039;t have turned down that nomination to the holiday party white elephant committee.&quot; Or, worse, &quot;Sorry, Dave, but Sue has ten more points than you this year, so your new office is the broom closet.&quot; Though the point system is more in line with Doctorow&#039;s whuffie, as presented in Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom, where everyone is very conscious of everyone else&#039;s standing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Steven, in that I&#8217;m not on the tenure track, and generally able to do what I want when it comes to professional activities. Which makes me much less stressed about it, and makes the activities themselves more fun (though Jane&#8217;s comment over on ARCLog about what happens when it is time to look for another job gave me pause).</p>
<p>Dave&#8217;s point system creeps me out. &#8220;Sorry Dave, you are five points shy of your merit pay raise; looks like you shouldn&#8217;t have turned down that nomination to the holiday party white elephant committee.&#8221; Or, worse, &#8220;Sorry, Dave, but Sue has ten more points than you this year, so your new office is the broom closet.&#8221; Though the point system is more in line with Doctorow&#8217;s whuffie, as presented in Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom, where everyone is very conscious of everyone else&#8217;s standing.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane - I had to 2x check to make sure I didn&#039;t type &quot;evil&quot;! And they could definitely be used interchangable. Our evals are certainly evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane &#8211; I had to 2x check to make sure I didn&#8217;t type &#8220;evil&#8221;! And they could definitely be used interchangable. Our evals are certainly evil.</p>
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		<title>By: ACRLog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tenure-Driven Publication And Presenting Need Not Be A Grind</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACRLog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tenure-Driven Publication And Presenting Need Not Be A Grind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was inspired to write about publishing and presenting by academic librarians on the tenure track by a post on this topic over at Wandering Eyre . Jane relates how she feels like a &#8220;lady of the night&#8221; because she is obligated to give away her research to professional conferences if she is to achieve tenure. While her post is itself a continuation of a thread about gratis presentations versus paid ones, I sensed more angst about the &#8220;publish or perish&#8221; pressure felt by academic librarians on the tenure track. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was inspired to write about publishing and presenting by academic librarians on the tenure track by a post on this topic over at Wandering Eyre . Jane relates how she feels like a &#8220;lady of the night&#8221; because she is obligated to give away her research to professional conferences if she is to achieve tenure. While her post is itself a continuation of a thread about gratis presentations versus paid ones, I sensed more angst about the &#8220;publish or perish&#8221; pressure felt by academic librarians on the tenure track. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Tennant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Tennant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane, I can remember being a new librarian and scrambling to get on ALA committees (which I did) and what-not to gather &quot;whuffie&quot; (that&#039;s a new term for me). I soon learned that although those initial experiences were better than I could ever hope to have again, they weren&#039;t where I could make the best contribution. I found a niche that worked for me, and that has factored into actually making a decent income on the side (Mr. Rochester, pay attention). So I encourage you to hang in there, and to seek out the niche that you can uniquely fill. I have confidence you can, since you are articulate and have something useful to say. That&#039;s almost the entire battle. Now take it into journal or magazine articles, books, and other modes of communication and before long you&#039;ll be getting paid speaking gigs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, I can remember being a new librarian and scrambling to get on ALA committees (which I did) and what-not to gather &#8220;whuffie&#8221; (that&#8217;s a new term for me). I soon learned that although those initial experiences were better than I could ever hope to have again, they weren&#8217;t where I could make the best contribution. I found a niche that worked for me, and that has factored into actually making a decent income on the side (Mr. Rochester, pay attention). So I encourage you to hang in there, and to seek out the niche that you can uniquely fill. I have confidence you can, since you are articulate and have something useful to say. That&#8217;s almost the entire battle. Now take it into journal or magazine articles, books, and other modes of communication and before long you&#8217;ll be getting paid speaking gigs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,
I looked at your comment and the first time I read &quot;...factored into our final eval score&quot; I read:

&quot;factored into our final EVIL score&quot;

Librarians, we are evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,<br />
I looked at your comment and the first time I read &#8220;&#8230;factored into our final eval score&#8221; I read:</p>
<p>&#8220;factored into our final EVIL score&#8221;</p>
<p>Librarians, we are evil.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at a non-tenure track institution and we don&#039;t *have* to publish and/ or present per se. But a part of our evaluation is based on service and professional development. We get points for doing stuff like going to a conference, publishing a paper, working with a community organization. Then said points are added up and factored into our final eval score. 

I do what speaking and such that I do because I like it and like to make my, albeit tiny, contribution to the profession. But our situation does make it easy to seem like a (poorly paid) point whore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at a non-tenure track institution and we don&#8217;t *have* to publish and/ or present per se. But a part of our evaluation is based on service and professional development. We get points for doing stuff like going to a conference, publishing a paper, working with a community organization. Then said points are added up and factored into our final eval score. </p>
<p>I do what speaking and such that I do because I like it and like to make my, albeit tiny, contribution to the profession. But our situation does make it easy to seem like a (poorly paid) point whore.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not as simple as tenure-track or not. At MPOW we&#039;re being told we have to publish more even though we&#039;re not tenure-track.

Whether that mandate is going to stick is another question entirely, of course...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not as simple as tenure-track or not. At MPOW we&#8217;re being told we have to publish more even though we&#8217;re not tenure-track.</p>
<p>Whether that mandate is going to stick is another question entirely, of course&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Rochester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Rochester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Jane&#039;s husband and financial backer I have to say that I wouldn&#039;t mind a little compensation for her attending these conferences.  Especially since her job requires her to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Jane&#8217;s husband and financial backer I have to say that I wouldn&#8217;t mind a little compensation for her attending these conferences.  Especially since her job requires her to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,
I could not agree more. I feel lucky that I have been able to pursue things that I like and have them count towards my review process. That being said, this space does not contribute towards my review, but my involvement with LITA Blog does. I think that some libraries have a broader definition of scholarship and for that I am grateful.

I hate being told what to do sometimes and that part of me grinds under this system. I guess what I am really advocating for is a bit more flexibility, as you have suggested.

It also irks me that conferences are so darn expensive to attend. I want to be compensated in some way if I am contributing to the conference. I know that this is a wish I may never see fulfilled in ALA, but I can dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,<br />
I could not agree more. I feel lucky that I have been able to pursue things that I like and have them count towards my review process. That being said, this space does not contribute towards my review, but my involvement with LITA Blog does. I think that some libraries have a broader definition of scholarship and for that I am grateful.</p>
<p>I hate being told what to do sometimes and that part of me grinds under this system. I guess what I am really advocating for is a bit more flexibility, as you have suggested.</p>
<p>It also irks me that conferences are so darn expensive to attend. I want to be compensated in some way if I am contributing to the conference. I know that this is a wish I may never see fulfilled in ALA, but I can dream.</p>
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		<title>By: steven bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your post. Just two observations. One - librarians are on the tenure track at only about 50% of academic institutions. There are many librarians at the other 50% who aren&#039;t required to publish or present but do so because they enjoy conducting research, sharing ideas with colleagues, and forcing themselves to learn and master new skills. Two - while quite a bit of the publications in academic library journals suggest &quot;written because I need to get tenure&quot; research doesn&#039;t have to be a grind (as it seems to be for Jenica). It can also be an opportunity to learn a new skill or master a new technology. For example, most of us have subject expertise.  A research project could be conducted on some topic that forces one to conduct more analysis, deeper reading or exploring a new research methodology as part of the process of publishing or presenting. If you have to do research, might as well make it a learning experience and enhance your own value as a professional. These may not be incredibly original suggestions but perhaps it will put a more optimistic spin on what seems like a depressing discussion.  Perhaps that&#039;s one of the big differences between academic librarians on the tenure track and those who aren&#039;t when it comes to  publication and presentation. I&#039;ve never been on the tenure track and for me publishing and presenting has always been a challenge and a reward in and of itself - no pay needed (although I do accept honorariums when offered). It has never seemed like a grind or noose around the neck. But then - I could stop anytime I want. I would like to see the definitions of scholarship broadened for academic librarians. Why not value a blog. I&#039;d like to think more librarians will benefit from this blog than a research article in a journal that not likely to get read by many librarians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post. Just two observations. One &#8211; librarians are on the tenure track at only about 50% of academic institutions. There are many librarians at the other 50% who aren&#8217;t required to publish or present but do so because they enjoy conducting research, sharing ideas with colleagues, and forcing themselves to learn and master new skills. Two &#8211; while quite a bit of the publications in academic library journals suggest &#8220;written because I need to get tenure&#8221; research doesn&#8217;t have to be a grind (as it seems to be for Jenica). It can also be an opportunity to learn a new skill or master a new technology. For example, most of us have subject expertise.  A research project could be conducted on some topic that forces one to conduct more analysis, deeper reading or exploring a new research methodology as part of the process of publishing or presenting. If you have to do research, might as well make it a learning experience and enhance your own value as a professional. These may not be incredibly original suggestions but perhaps it will put a more optimistic spin on what seems like a depressing discussion.  Perhaps that&#8217;s one of the big differences between academic librarians on the tenure track and those who aren&#8217;t when it comes to  publication and presentation. I&#8217;ve never been on the tenure track and for me publishing and presenting has always been a challenge and a reward in and of itself &#8211; no pay needed (although I do accept honorariums when offered). It has never seemed like a grind or noose around the neck. But then &#8211; I could stop anytime I want. I would like to see the definitions of scholarship broadened for academic librarians. Why not value a blog. I&#8217;d like to think more librarians will benefit from this blog than a research article in a journal that not likely to get read by many librarians.</p>
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