Comments on: Raising the Bar for Students and Teachers http://wanderingeyre.com/2006/09/20/raising-the-bar-for-students-and-teachers/ traversing life with words Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:17:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Angel http://wanderingeyre.com/2006/09/20/raising-the-bar-for-students-and-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-4077 Angel Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:19:48 +0000 http://wanderingeyre.com/2006/09/20/raising-the-bar-for-students-and-teachers/#comment-4077 You should see some of the things my students don't know, and I don't mean that as a negative on them. To an extent, they are a product of the education (or lack thereof) they got in high school. I don't recall having to teach how to distinguish an article from a book citation when looking at a database for a while now. When I was in graduate school, during my previous life, teachers would ask me to teach those things. Not anymore. I think a lot may have to do with the fact article databases are taken for granted; you don't need to know how to make those distinctions, or so the thinking goes. If nothing else, at least I feel a little less alone that I am not the only one thinking on those things. Best, and keep on blogging. You should see some of the things my students don’t know, and I don’t mean that as a negative on them. To an extent, they are a product of the education (or lack thereof) they got in high school. I don’t recall having to teach how to distinguish an article from a book citation when looking at a database for a while now. When I was in graduate school, during my previous life, teachers would ask me to teach those things. Not anymore. I think a lot may have to do with the fact article databases are taken for granted; you don’t need to know how to make those distinctions, or so the thinking goes. If nothing else, at least I feel a little less alone that I am not the only one thinking on those things. Best, and keep on blogging.

]]> By: Jane http://wanderingeyre.com/2006/09/20/raising-the-bar-for-students-and-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-4072 Jane Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:41:51 +0000 http://wanderingeyre.com/2006/09/20/raising-the-bar-for-students-and-teachers/#comment-4072 I was sort of considering research concepts. Punctuation usage is a whole other kettle of fish. I think people should be taught why they have to give credit to others when quoting them and what the proper way to do that would be. I do not think that is asking too much. I was sort of considering research concepts. Punctuation usage is a whole other kettle of fish. I think people should be taught why they have to give credit to others when quoting them and what the proper way to do that would be. I do not think that is asking too much.

]]> By: Mr. Rochester http://wanderingeyre.com/2006/09/20/raising-the-bar-for-students-and-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-4071 Mr. Rochester Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:31:34 +0000 http://wanderingeyre.com/2006/09/20/raising-the-bar-for-students-and-teachers/#comment-4071 When you read my last post keep in mind that I did admit my lack of grammar skills. Apparently, I don't know how to use a comma properly. Or a colon. Or a semi-colon. The list goes on. When you read my last post keep in mind that I did admit my lack of grammar skills. Apparently, I don’t know how to use a comma properly. Or a colon. Or a semi-colon. The list goes on.

]]> By: Mr. Rochester http://wanderingeyre.com/2006/09/20/raising-the-bar-for-students-and-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-4070 Mr. Rochester Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:29:51 +0000 http://wanderingeyre.com/2006/09/20/raising-the-bar-for-students-and-teachers/#comment-4070 Although, I agree with you I think you are only looking at this from one side. The days of the renaissance man are pretty much over. There is so much information and fields of study out there that our society has become much more specialized. As a result, it is more efficient for some one to recognize his strengths and/or passions and follow that path. When we demand results from "experts" in a certain area then it is usually easier to forgive mistakes from those same people in a field they have ignored to reach their status. There are many skills that I lack as a result of being in a field dependent on advanced math. Not least of which is my use of grammar. But I could say the same of other people (not to name names) who managed to make it through college with nothing more than an algebra class. Algebra!? Although, I agree with you I think you are only looking at this from one side.

The days of the renaissance man are pretty much over. There is so much information and fields of study out there that our society has become much more specialized. As a result, it is more efficient for some one to recognize his strengths and/or passions and follow that path.

When we demand results from “experts” in a certain area then it is usually easier to forgive mistakes from those same people in a field they have ignored to reach their status.

There are many skills that I lack as a result of being in a field dependent on advanced math. Not least of which is my use of grammar. But I could say the same of other people (not to name names) who managed to make it through college with nothing more than an algebra class. Algebra!?

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